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Have you thought about natural horsemanship courses @outlander? They can be invaluable in helping you with troublesome or green horses, especially floating. Before I did it with my boys, only Rex would go on the float. Comet I needed the racehorse transport to put him in a mobile stallion box to move him and that was really expensive! Before they got sold, they would both willingly trot onto the float to a carrot treat.